Fosbery Family History


Back in 1998 I thought that the Arms of Fosbery were the same as those of Fosbrooke.

This information was gained from a collection published in 1816 titled
" Sketches - Collected chiefly from the Records in

'Ulster's Office'

and other authentic documents " - by Patrick Kennedy - Herald Painter - 1816


No place of origin had then been found for the first Fosbery who settled in Ireland. Francis of Kilcooly being the first name in the Irish Fosbery Tree, and he was reportedly a Dragoon Officer with King William's forces in the 1690's.

This opened up an interesting line of research, for strangely enough one branch of the English Fosbroke family had a third son Francis born in 1601.This was only the second and final occurrence of that forename in the Fosbroke family records perused. This forename is however a common name in the Fosbery family in records from mid 1600's onwards.

The records that I had perused had shown that on 30th April 1668 one Francis Fosbroke had married at Clanfield in Hampshire. The maiden name of his wife was not given, but he is the only Fosbroke found in those records in the South of England.

I thought that there could have been a primary connection there.

Thinking for example that this third son (Fosbroke) went to Ireland and there adopted, or perhaps there occurred, a change in style of his name - spellings were often found to be varied in former times even within the same family, sometimes even within the same document - certainly between different regions.

If he had been set up as the head of a 'new' branch of the Family, now having Estates - procured from the Irish Proprietors - could he not have retained the customary arms of his family even if restyling his name, perhaps alluding to an older spelling and relating to the Wiltshire Fosbury?

The first record of the spelling Fosbroke, occurs 300 years after the Domesday records.

Considering various ancient spellings and the centuries involved we find many interesting variations:


VARIOUS SPELLINGS OF FOSBERY AND FOSBROOKE found between 1086 and 1700


1066 - 1086 - William of Normandy

1086 - FISTESBERIE
&
FOSTESBERGE

Both are listed in the Domesday Book and are now identified as FOSBURY in Tidcombe, Wiltshire.


1216 - 1272 - Henry III

1244 John de FORSTBURY Listed in Wiltshire as a Forester.
Also spelled John de FORESTESBI in some documents.


1272 - 1307 - Edward I

1274 Peter de FORSTEBURY Also in Wiltshire as a Forester
and referred to in some cases as - Petrus de FORSTEBUR -


1377 - 1399 - Richard II

1391 John FOSSEBROKE Held lands in Cranford, Northampton.


1413 - 1422 - Henry V

1416 Andrew FOSTEBURY - A Wiltshire Wool Merchant had his Mark or Seal registered:




1418 John FOSSEBROKE Son of John above, died, and was s. by his son,
Edward FOSBROKE (or Gerrard).


1509 - 1547 - Henry VIII

1528 Henry FOSBROKE 4th son of Edward (Gerrard) settled at Nottingham.


1558 - 1603 - Elizabeth I

1564 FOSBROKE Family recorded Arms and Pedigree at the Herald's Visitation of Northamptonshire in that year.

1593 Francis FOSBROKE of Nottingham, 3rd son of Henry, died.
1593 Robert FOSBROOKE 2nd son of Henry, married and had a 3rd son Francis born in 1601

1601 Francis FOSBROOKE of whom nothing more is known so far.....

Then there is the Francis FOSBROKE who was married in Hampshire in April 1668 (v.s.)


1625 - 1649 - Charles I

1640 Francis FOSBERY of Kilcooly - Will dated 1700.
So this is his possible Birthdate. He settled in Ireland
probably before the Williamite war of 1689-90, as his Will dated 1700 states he had held Kilcooly for 19 years


His origins are not yet known, but he is listed as, 'of a Family anciently of Wiltshire' and which later became settled also in Hampshire and Berkshire.


1689 - 1702 - William III (& Mary)

1690 Francis FOSBERY of Clorane, son of Francis of Kilcooly, also said to have emigrated to Ireland. His Will is dated 1717.
Where did he originate?


FOSSEBROKE does not occur in the present records until 300 years after the first FORSTBURY record.

When, Where and Why did FOSBERY reach it's present spelling?


Where - in England? - was Francis of Kilcooly born?


His son, Francis - later of Clorane co. Limerick - is said to have emigrated to Ireland in 1690.


Where was he born?


Who was in William III's Dragoons - Fosbery &/or Fosbroke ?


I was left with the conundrum in Ulster's Records of Arms,

- " FOSBERY or FOSBROOKE " -

the same Arms.


UPDATE - 2013



In 2013, further research showed that by the time of 'Fairbairn's Book of Crests', first published in 1859, the situation therein had been clarified.
The Crests of Fosbery and Fosbroke had been separately described:






These records put some distinction between the Fosbery and Fosbroke Families at least as far back as the mid-19th Century.
Though there still may remain some historical association in the more distant past, that is the hypothesis of this article.



Back in 1870 Lt Col. George Vincent Fosbery VC. son of Thomas Vincent Fosbery, sometime Vicar of Christ Church, Reading, Berks. Petitioned the Duke of Norfolk to be assigned his own Arms and was successful in that cause [see link].



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